Mr & Mrs Homebuyer – does your builder have a permit to build?

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Back on September 6th, I wrote a blog titled: “Defamation – the accusing letter.” 

You will note a comment by Keith Chadwick which I can only say – listen to what he says.  He and a number of others went through pure hell in the Mattamy Homes Kanata Fairwinds fiasco where they were stalled for around 2 years due to the fact MATTAMY DID NOT HAVE PERMITS ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD.  Yes, it was alright to sell homes but they weren’t authorized to build officially on paper.

Correct me if I’m wrong Mattamy.  Kind of like selling swamp land in Florida.

What Keith, others in Ottawa and a swarm of potential buyers are asking –  Why did the City of Ottawa allow Mattamy Homes to sell when they knew there were no permits to build?  The land was under dispute in regards to environmental concerns.  One guy who tried to tell his side of the story, an engineer, was black balled.

I get a kick out of how someone who tries to sell hot dogs on the street gets swarmed by by-law officers if he has no permit.  I personally know of charity events that no longer serve food due to the permit restrictions and costs.  I read how a sheriff in the U.S. shut down two girls who were running a lemonade stand on their front lawn.  These events get quick enforcement while a builder is allowed to sell homes without a build permit.  A friend of mine is building his own house – inspectors and permits galore.

Why would a major, award-winning builder start to sell homes they can’t build – playing Russian Roulette with the lives and finances of unsuspecting homebuyers.  Let’s face it – who checks to see if the builder has a permit to build.  Our trusting souls automatically assume that under our present government that this is a given.

I thought it was a given that I would have electrical power when I moved in and that the wiring used to power the furnace for the Town of Oakville inspector would be legal.  Nada!!!

In his comment, Keith recommends you ask the builder if all the permits are in place that allows the legal sale and building of the structure.  If they give you a hard time, ask why.  Why would a major builder, or any builder for a matter of fact, not be able to produce copies of the forms that allow them to build what you are buying?  Lightening can strike twice you know.

Would you like to go and order a car from Ford or GM and wait two years to find out they could not legally build the car?

Now, I understand that Mattamy did give back the deposits.  Did they give any interest on the $30k deposits or compensation?

Did you Mattamy?  I ask you to clarify the matter.

I don’t absolve the City of Ottawa or in fact, any municipality, that would allow this to happen.  And, once knowing about it, not doing something to correct the matter or ensure it doesn’t happen again.  Have any by-laws been passed to ensure this doesn’t happen?  Do we have one in Oakville?  If not, then maybe it’s overdue.

Unless you’d rather close down lemonade stands on the front lawns run by children.  Better to bully the little guy instead of going after the big guy.  Maybe it’s the donation factor coming into effect here.  Little girls don’t give big donations to political causes.

And, I know about Bully Boys – right Mr. Gilgan.  Your lawyer certainly does now.

If our municipalities really cared about potential homebuyers and voters, you’d think they would make a few laws to ensure builders did not get away these things.  And, I ask, what is wrong about a by-law stating that anyone who wants to build within the municipality must not only have the permits to build prior to sale, but must allow a homebuyer the RIGHT to have a house inspector monitor the construction of their home.  For those with limited building inspector resources, you’d think they would readily accept this assistance to ensure all building codes were followed to the letter of the law.

Unless of course, the donations are too big to pass up.

I guess with the upcoming provincial election, we should be asking Dalton McGuinty and Tim Hudak about developer donations and their platform regarding developers and urban growth?

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* The above is intended to show the reader examples of how to obtain a house inspector, no matter which builder you buy from. Remember, awards and advertising are designed to make you buy, not ensure you quality. We’ve shown that awards are not the standard on which to base your decision on. My use of my experiences are not made to embarass Mattamy Homes or Peter Gilgan but, are used because they are based on fact and show the larger picture that a house inspector is a requirement when buying a house, new or old from any builder. My experience only shows that in fact it can happen and is a fact of life. Your experiences with Mattamy may have differed.

Mattamy – have you really learned anything at all?

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As we approach the end of the year, we see on the TV and in the newspapers different articles telling of the year gone past – deaths, trends, births, etc.  In our own lives, we probably also take a moment to reflect on our past year and maybe on how to better the upcoming year.

Something you’d think Mattamy would practice if they wanted to better their company and treat homebuyers with more respect and consideration.

At one forum, which starts out discussing the Spirit townhome and eventually expands to talk about the trades and then closing dates, you really get the impression Mattamy has learned nothing over the past few years.

There is discussion that Mattamy blames trade shortage on delayed closing dates.  But some wonder why other builders don’t suffer this trade shortage.  According to some, it is the way Mattamy treats the trades.  None want to work for them.   Of course, that begs the question – if the goods ones don’t want to work with Mattamy, just who is?

The discussion then moves onto another reason for delay.  According to one source it is because they do not have all the permits in the Orleans area.  NO PERMITS!!!!  Shades of Kanata Fairwinds all over.  Why can a company go out and sell homes without permits to build them.  I’d be putting something in my offer to purchase to protect my butt on that one I can tell you.  It is dishonest and flim flam sales tactics to try and sell homes you are not at that point legally able to build.

All it takes is an environmental concern (remember, Mattamy was convicted of illegal environmental tampering) or some other reason to totally blow your future home out of the water and what do you get – you money back without interest.  Hey, a couple of months, not bad but those in Fairwinds waited a couple of years. 

“Just an additional point – it’s the law in Ontario that allows builders to sell homes to consumers when they only have draft approval from the city. Some builders (like Mattamy and many others in Ottawa) choose to sell at this point. Other builders (like Urbandale and many others) seem to wait until they have final subdivision approval before opening up a new phase to consumers. So until the Ontario government amends the law to protect consumers, it’s important to call the city and ask about the approvals for your phase before you sign your purchase agreement. It’s not so much a problem with the City as it is with the law in Ontario. ”  

This quote was answered by one forum member.  As you can see, some builders just play the game while others don’t.  But it is a dangerous game with serious consequences to the homebuyer.  I tried to get the government to change the law regarding home inspector and allow you to put it into the purchase agreement.  They said no, it would cost the homeowner money.  Yeah, what else is new.  So, I doubt if they will protect homebuyers by changing this law.  Might cost the homebuyer money because they will buy a home.

And, if you take the chance and get screwed, make sure you are aware of your legal avenues under Tarion.  Here is the link concerning delay rules.

Good luck in the New Year.  Make sure you have learned your rights over the past year.  Obviously builders like Mattamy haven’t learned anything.

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Mike Holmes – I disagree that permits mean anything

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I just finished watching the HGTV show, “Holmes on Homes“, the show showcasing Mike Holmes unearthing shoddy workmanship in home renovations.  In this episode, a very smart-looking house ends up being gutted due to poorly done renovations in the past (prior to this couple buying the home).  The sad thing is, they relied on a house inspection by someone who I guess wasn’t overly qualified to do inspections.

One point Mike Holmes kept making in the initial inspection was “permits”.  I know some see permits as a tax grab by the municipality while others state that a permit increases the possibility of quality work.

I’d like to agree but can’t totally.  In my case, Mattamy Homes wired my furnace to the uninhabited home next door and a Town of Oakville inspector passed the furnace.  Mattamy pointed out this permit when I questioned the legality of the furnace hookup and thus the house sale went through.  Illegal wiring that certainly put my children’s lives at risk.

So, Mr. Holmes – so much for a permit being a guide to better construction.

When this issue was brought to the attention of the Town of Oakville and the then mayor, Ann Mulvale, nothing was really done.  So, I guess in the Town of Oakville, at least, permits really don’t mean that much in the grand scheme of things.

But Mulvale did manage to get a worthwhile  donation from Mattamy Homes for Wellspring.

I sort of wonder why she wants to be mayor of Oakville again and is running in this fall’s municipal elections?  I wonder how much Mattamy Homes is helping in her campaign?  Will permits mean anything in the future?
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IN THE PREVIOUS OAKVILLE TOWN COUNCIL AND HALTON COUNCIL, WHO WAS IT THAT SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPERS? DO YOU WANT MORE OF THE SAME TO COME BACK AFTER 4 YEARS ABSENCE?

YOUR VOTE WILL DETERMINE JUST HOW BAD YOUR POCKETBOOK WILL SUFFER – TAXES HAVE STAYED THE SAME THIS LAST FOUR YEARS – REMEMBER THAT WHEN PEOPLE ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR THOSE WHO RAISED TAXES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

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Once burnt – twice shy, when it comes to Mattamy

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For those who have been reading this blog, you will of course know of the many problems that people have suffered when they bought a Mattamy home.  Yes, there are those that got a freeby and seem to have been lucky in not suffering much in terms of quality or, they simply don’t know.  But, those who know about Ottawa, are a little gun-shy when it comes to buying a Mattamy home anywhere near Kanata or Ottawa.

Seems that those looking at buying in Orleans, a suburb of Ottawa are wondering about the ethics of Mattamy.

This one posting says it all:

“Hopefully anyone looking to purchase a new home will contact the city beforehand to check the status of the phase because you can’t trust every builder! After reading and hearing (both on the news and on this forum) about many ex-Mattamy owners in Kanata Fairwinds, I understand that just because a builder has “draft site plan approval” does not mean they are able to build – only that they are legally able to sell.”

and another;

“A reliable source tells me they haven’t got the permits yet, just like some builders at half moon bay, selling lots but not able to deliver because the city hasn’t approved”.

 

and, just in case it wasn’t really that much of a thing to go through:

 

“Unfortunately we were so blinded by falling in love with the Mattamy floor plans and location that we completely missed asking the important questions beforehand. Now it’s two years and $80,000 later (because that’s how much house prices had increased by the time Mattamy cancelled our development). We had no real recourse because we signed a conditional purchase agreement which stated that Mattamy could walk away if they didn’t get the required permits from the City. They swore up and down for two years that it would never happen and they were “close” to being approved. But they weren’t and the families that believed them paid a dear price. Call the city and ask questions. If they don’t have more than draft subdivision approval, don’t hand them your hard earned money.”

Can you imagine trying to buy your first home – the dream home and this is how an established builder treats you.  I wonder what other builders would do?  Mattamy may have the floor plans but, can your marriage take the strain.

“OMG, Mattamy in Orleans. We loved the floor plans but everyone we know has had nothing bud nightmares. Not just in delays but in problems with the build both before and afterwards. I guess when a builder professes to have the best prices on the market, you have to assume you get what you pay for.”

  

After reading these statements, I’d be asking my lawyer just how to lock up a purchase agreement so I didn’t get shafted like those in Kanata Fairwinds. 

 

I’d say it is almost criminal to actually reel in customers on a sale that you can’t guarantee you can fulfill. 

 

I’m not talking about the possibility of strikes, a lack of building material and other issues such as weather.  Most homeowners understand those issues and will accommodate them into their plans.  But not having final approval to build is throwing the dice on peoples lives, dreams and finances and is not the type of qualities you’d expect in an award-winning builder.

 

But, Mattamy has sold houses without the permit to build, has done environmental damage to rivers, begun construction on land fertilized with human waste – putting workers and neighbours at risk, and, put children’s lives at risk with illegal (code) wiring,.   etc, etc, etc.

 

But when you read the ads and media, you’d think they were a high-class builder.  If they are getting away with this and win the awards, just how bad are the other builders?

 

Bottom line, in order not to get burnt once, learn from those who have.  Make sure you have a good real estate lawyer that can put in the protection and get a house inspector to ensure quality.  If Mattamy says no, ask yourself why?  You can either walk away to another builder or roll the dice on your life.

 

Hey its your money (well, the banks) and if you want to take the chance, go ahead but be forewarned.  If you don’t lock in the protection, you’ll be on your own. 

 

A few of us, including those poor souls in Kanata Fairwinds, have the scars to prove it.

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“BUYER BE AWARE”

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Jenny Kotulak, a broker in the Oakville area, left a very good comment with good advice in my “About and Contact Section”  Hers is #10.

I think her comment on “buyer we aware” is very appropriate, for buying a new house or old.

The people in Ottawa, Mattamy Fairwinds, found out they were buying houses and Mattamy had no permit to build.  Those in Halton bought houses and are now being told by Mattamy they have to pay an extra $7800+ levy. 

Not nice surprises to have while you await your house.  Some things you can’t know but to keep on top of things, follow the blogs in your area to ensure you are kept aware of things happening that might affect your financial and physical welfare.  Listen to the experts and follow their advice and ensure you hire people to not only give you good advice but are independent enough to have your interest as their prime concern.

For those thinking of buying homes, look at the company track record.  Not the advertising nor the self-serving awards from places like J.D. Power (who finally woke up to Mattamy’s declining customer satisfaction record) or BILD.  Go to the blogs and see who is unhappy and why.  Their experiences will give you information on where to plug the holes in the purchase offers and who to hire to help you.

Some blogs have been shut down due to builder pressure and others keep going.  Remember – if they aren’t telling the truth, they would be open to a lawsuit.  The truth hurts but, when you know it, you can prepare yourself and be aware of how to look after yourself.  Your builder is looking after his profit and those large builders can lose a few customers without worrying.  Can you afford to lose your investment or have to pay big bucks to pay for their mistakes?

Remember one point – at some point you will probably want to sell your house.  A buyer can, without any problem, hire a house inspector to look after their interest. 

Who looked after your interest on the new house?  A municipal inspector who overlooked things, a mayor who wanted donation money over children’s safety, a sub-contractor giving you shoddy service because the builder was cutting his contract money? 

Hire a house inspector so that you know your future home will be built and will last a reasonable time before needing NORMAL maintenance.  Otherwise, you will not only pay to have your house built but you will have to pay for unneccessary repairs early and,  also pay to have your house repaired for someone buying it who does hire a house inspector to look after their interests.

Thanks Jenny for the very good advice.

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Do you really think building inspectors catch all????

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Recently, Tim A made a comment on one of my blogs.  I repeat it at the end of this.  It will only confirm that if you really expect that your interests are being covered by the Town/City in which your home is being built, then you are sadly mistaken.  In my case, the Town of Oakville building inspector allowed illegal (code) wiring.  What other things did he allow that I was not aware of?  His boss has even stated in writing that he would not allow a house in the condition mine was be given an occupancy permit.

Speaking of which – how many jurisdictions actually issue an occupancy permit.  Probably not on tract houses.  If you’re building your own, then you really receive the inspection routine to the fullest.  I know as I have friends who have to have every little thing inspected before they do anything.  I doubt if tract houses receive the personal inspection at that level.

I had a summer job as an assessor.  We only did a single model to decide on the taxes for homes in a development.    Each home was not inspected.  And you can bet your bottom dollar, neither is your Mattamy or tract house.  And my case shows that even then, the building inspector lets illegal acts go through to a sale.

There’s only one person who will look after you and is paid to do so.  The house inspector.  Remember, he’s on your side because he wants repeat business and therefore will give you the facts to protect yourself.  The rest – they are all looking after themselves or, in the Town of Oakville’s case, donations to various projects.

 

Here’s Tim A’s story:

Reminds me that I found the carbon monoxide levels very high in my new Mattamy home. I couldn’t figure out why this was for a while until I noticed that in the attached garage, NOTHING was sealed. This is supposed to be a “code” violation and is something that is specifically checked by city code inspectors. When I informed Mattamy, they almost immediately (within minutes) showed up at my door looking to fix this. I was surprised as they never bothered to respond much unless they were bugged time and time again about other problems. I knew something was up and sent them away so that I could gather evidence and report this to the city.

This is where things get more interesting. The city (Brampton, Ontario) didn’t care whatsoever. I was actually told by the house inspector supervisor that I must be mistaken about what I saw because there is no way this would pass code. Politely I informed the supervisor that I was not mistaken and he can come out and look for himself. He basically insulted me repeatedly at this point and tried to turn things around saying that his inspectors would not miss something like this so no way it would pass inspection. I couldn’t believe this guy and it only goes to show that he really didn’t want to know the truth or that he knew guys out in the field weren’t really inspecting properly. There is just simply no other explanation here.

Furthermore, one of the major and obvious unsealed holes was were the gas line entered the basement. I could literally look right into the basement the whole was so big. This got me to wondering how running a GAS line from the front of the garage at car bumper (or door) level all the way to the back of the garage can be to code.

Once again, I couldn’t get anybody from the city to care about this. I couldn’t get a clear answer as to whether that was done by code or not. But any common sense would indicate it is not. How easy would it be to ram the car into the line and rupture it and possibly cause an explosion. Or slam the door on it and possibly rupture it (although this is a lot less likely I would think but not impossible).

I went to the fire department but they didn’t seem too interested either other than to say it doesn’t make much sense to run a gas line like that but said if the builder did it, it must be to code. You would think the fire department would have some say into this type of thing or at least know what the code is for this kind of thing. Further, they said talk to the city. The fire department only seemed concerned if/when the pipe was ruptured.

Once I was happy I gathered evidence and exhausted all avenue’s of getting somebody to care about this I had Mattamy seal up the garage. After that, no more carbon monoxide problems.

Gotta wonder how many other families are breathing in all this monoxide in houses Mattamy hasn’t bothered to properly seal? Wonder if there have been any deaths??? Maybe then the city might WAKE UP.

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Mattamy – strategy to shaft present taxpayers

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Well folks – it is time to put up or shut up I guess.  For those living in Halton Region at least.  The Region of Halton wants to increase development charges to ensure that the resulting infrastructure from proposed development is paid for by those wanting this growth and not by the present tax base.  A tax base I might point out, that has already paid development charges for their part of Halton.  And, a tax base now filled with the unemployed (due to recession), fixed income taxpayers and, new homebuyers – all of whom should not face an increased tax burden to ensure a billionaire gets to build more.

So, Mattamy Homes has put out an email campaign asking for support from those wanting development and asking them to send pre-made templates to local councillors.  I get a kick out of one of the templates.  One is from parents asking for help to get their kids out of the house – an act of desperation understood by all parents I guess.

Well, I sent my response and, sorry to say, I did not use one of the beautifully crafted templates from Mattamy.  I’m sorry this blog will be so long but I have included my response and the letter from Mattamy for you reading and enjoyment (?).  Mine was shorter as I’m not as desperate.  If you agree or disagree, the councillor’s email addresses are at the bottom.

MINE:

Mattamy Homes has recently performed an email campaign, with templates attached, that is asking taxpayers to ask their local councillors not to implement proposed development charges.  I believe this to be a self-serving campaign developed by a billionaire that is asking the present and future taxpayers to insure developers maintain a high profit on the sale of their homes by reducing the financial impact of the development costs that they are causing.

 

We know that new development requires an infrastructure built to support it.  This cost can be assumed by those wanting development (developers, new homeowners) or, by those already in the tax base.  To reduce the development charges only means that, in our present economic recession, unemployed homeowners, fixed income taxpayers such as widows and, new families who have bought re-sales will have to absorb these costs in additional taxes to their already established homes.  Many of these people have already paid their share of development charges and many have paid taxes into Halton Region for decades.

 

Here we have a company who has skirted the law in the past (illegal wiring, selling homes in Ottawa without permits to build, environmental crimes, etc) asking you, the taxpayer’s representative, to not charge them a fair price for their developments and, to ensure the rest of Halton pays for their profitable enterprises.

 

Please do no succumb to the pressures brought to you by this billionaire who is only looking after number one.  If you visit www.oakvillehomes.wordpress.comyou will see that Mattamy Homes does not really care about the homeowner and hopefully you will see that reducing the development charges only helps one person while impacting in a negative way on a lot of our taxpayers already struggling in today’s negative economy.

 

Please, keep to the plan and vote in the development charges.  It’s in the interests of those wanting a debt-reduced future for Halton.

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Subject: Imagining your new Oakville home

A message from Peter E. Gilgan, CEO of Mattamy Homes, to homebuyers interested in living in north Oakville.

Thank you again for registering your name on the Mattamy Homes website to show your interest in our communities planned for north Oakville. This is often the first step toward your family finding the perfect, well-priced, award-winning home in our desirable town. The second step would normally be our announcement of a sales opening. It appears though, that in 2009 there is a new second step we need to take – a call to democratic action.

In the earliest days of the current economic reality, Mattamy Homes adjusted pricing and has kept selling and building beautiful homes in great communities at reasonable prices. At the same time, Halton Regional government, operating with old information from a booming housing market, has pressed ahead with proposals to raise the development charges (a form of tax for services on new homes) applied to new homebuyers. While this might seem to be a problem to be faced by the builder of your next home, it is an issue of great importance to you.

A development charge is a legitimate tax paid by homebuilders and passed along to homebuyers to fund the new roads and utilities required for a new community. Currently, a new homebuyer on a modest lot suitable for a semidetached or a small detached home in Oakville pays over $47,200 in a combination of fees to government on the day they get their keys (even before their first tax bill). While Oakville is a unique community with few comparators for beauty and family-friendly services, the current development charges exceed similar communities such as Mississauga ($32,100), Aurora ($37,100), or Pickering ($29,800) by an already inexplicable amount.

Instead of stepping in, as some southern Ontario municipalities are doing, and freezing or reducing these fees, Halton Regional Council will vote July 15th on a proposal to raise them a further $8,000 per lot. To make matters worse, the Oakville Town Council is also currently contemplating a further increase of their component of these charges by approximately $9,000 per lot for a possible new total fee approaching $65,000 per home! We are using everything in our power to stop these proposals from passing. We’d like to ask you to use something too – your imagination.

Please imagine that you already own a stunning Mattamy Home on a pretty street in the Preserve (North Oakville). Imagine that regional government has collected over $47,200 from you on closing but has now proposed that you to pay a further $8,000 (or even $17,000 if Oakville’s proposal were to pass). What would you do? I hope your answer is that you would send Council a message – because that’s what I’d like you to do now.Please take a moment in the next couple of days to send an email to all of the Halton Regional Councillors listed below. Please ask them to cancel the proposed increase of $8,000 or to delay the vote. Time is short and I’ve taken the liberty of attaching some draft templates that you can use for your message. Obviously, please feel free to customize them or write your own.

We are primed and ready to build your next home in Oakville with brand-new designs and unique community features. We want it to be fairly taxed and we want to deliver it to you in my lifetime! Your emails to Council can make both of these desires possible. If you have any questions about this request for assistance, please contact us at MattamyPartners@mattamycorp.com.

Thank you

Peter E. Gilgan
CEO, Mattamy Homes

Halton Regional Council Members

Chair Gary Carr gary.carr@halton.ca
Councillor Alan Johnston ajohnston@oakville.ca
Councillor Allan Elgar aelgar@oakville.ca
Councillor Barry Lee barry@barrylee.ca
Councillor Carol D’Amelio damelioc@burlington.ca
Councillor Clark Somerville clarks@haltonhills.ca
Councillor Colin Best colin.best@milton.ca
Councillor Fred Oliver foliver@oakville.ca
Councillor Jack Dennison dennisonj@burlington.ca
Councillor Jane Fogal janefogal@haltonhills.ca
Councillor Jeff Knoll jknoll@oakville.ca
Councillor John Taylor taylorj@burlington.ca
Councillor Keith Bird kbird@oakville.ca
Councillor Peter Thoem thoemp@burlington.ca
Councillor Rick Craven cravenr@burlington.ca
Councillor Rick Goldring goldringr@burlington.ca
Councillor Tom Adams tadams@oakville.ca
Mayor Cam Jackson mayorjackson@burlington.ca
Mayor Gord Krantz gord.krantz@milton.ca
Mayor Rick Bonnette mayor@haltonhills.ca
Mayor Rob Burton mayor@oakville.ca

gary.carr@halton.ca; ajohnston@oakville.ca; aelgar@oakville.ca; barry@barrylee.ca; damelioc@burlington.ca; clarks@haltonhills.ca; colin.best@milton.ca; foliver@oakville.ca; dennisonj@burlington.ca; janefogal@haltonhills.ca; jknoll@oakville.ca; taylorj@burlington.ca; kbird@oakville.ca; thoemp@burlington.ca; cravenr@burlington.ca; goldringr@burlington.ca; tadams@oakville.ca; mayorjackson@burlington.ca; gord.krantz@milton.ca; mayor@haltonhills.ca; mayor@oakville.ca

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Mattamy starts the spin-doctoring…

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The spin-doctoring is already started.  In the Ottawa Citizen, Mattamy claims that it bought the property with the berm already in place and was only trying to make it conform with the conservation authority’s standards, and they later found out they needed a permit.  Yeah, right… Here is an award winning builder who has been involved in this stuff for ages and they really didn’t know the process.  Just like when they started construction on land fertilized with human waste up in Milton.  Well, the Rideau Valley Conservation Authority didn’t take that line of crap.

Mattamy plead guilty to the charges and it was “accepted reluctantly” to “maintain positive relations and to resolve the matter,”  according to Mattamy spokeswoman Susan Murphy.

Your right about the “reluctantly”.  Mattamy never likes to give up and as you can see in previous blogs, doesn’t even acknowledge their mistakes.  I only wish the Town of Oakvillehad the balls to do their job as professionally as the Rideau Valley Conservation Authority.  But then, the Town of Oakville has to deal with accepting donations  from Mattamy.

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