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February 12, 2009

Mattamy Homes – Florida isn’t too happy either

On one of my blogs I asked the question: “Why do I do this blog?”.   Someone has visited this blog and gave a very lengthy comment to this particular blog.  The one thing that bothers me about this comment is that they are not alone in their problems with Mattamy Homes, but it is hard to get your story out, considering how the mainstream press take the advertising but don’t really look into these stories..  Now, if Mattamy Homes believes that this comment is not just or is totally incorrect or, a lie, then they can contact me with their side of the story.  Just for the record, I have not verified this comment but, based on how Mattamy Homes treated me and my family, I am at least willing to share it with others so that they can make an informed decision on whether or not a house inspector is justified.  You know my story is true, so at least the hiring of a house inspector is justified.  If the following is true, it only goes to show how important it is to protect your investment.  We know the municipality won’t (at least the Town of Oakville).  Bracebridge and now Florida – not a good running record.

 

I live in a Mattamy home in Jacksonville, Florida (unfortunately they’re now infiltrating the US with their shoddy workmanship) and it is the WORST and MOST EXPENSIVE home I have ever owned. It makes me sick to think of how much this brand new house costs and the all the problems it has. The company helps when you first move in but makes out like you’re the one creating the problems and they have no idea how these things happen. This house is in a new subdivision and Mattamy will throw a house up in a few weeks and put a sign up that it’s for sale. Our home was built two years ago and as soon as we moved in, we began to have troubles. The electrical plates were screwed on the walls crooked and a few of the outlets aren’t even usable because when you try to plug something in, the bulb explodes. The heat doesn’t work, we put it on 85 degrees and the highest it will get when it’s 14 degrees outside is 69 degrees inside. The heater in the garage is not sealed which is probably where the air is leaking out. We’ve had the hot water heater replaced twice. The master suite stays frozen when it’s cold more than any other part of the house and usually it is more warm outside on a cold day than inside leading me to believe that room in particular has no insulation at all. There are also intercoms, and strange buzzing sounds will randomly start coming from them and you can’t stop them no matter what button you push. They’ll also turn on and off by themselves and many times we’ve found that the outside intercom would be on so people outside could hear what’s happening in the house. Also the dimming lights will suddenly come on leading me to believe our lights are somehow hooked up with a neighbors. Our water and electricity bill has had months of enormous expense, once $700, which caused the electric company to come to our house and ask us what we did to make the bill go so high when we had done nothing different. They read the meter and said it was accurate. Our phones also crackle when someone will pick up in another room and we’ve replaced the phones with new ones because the man Mattamy sent assured us that would “fix it.” There is currently a large crack that has appeared in the stucco of our house and as wet as Florida is, will probably rot the frame of the house if unfixed. The faucets leak constantly, and we didn’t have hot water either for a few days when we first moved in. The paint is horrible, some places of the house you can see under the windowsills where it wasn’t painted at all. Our lawn service man rang our doorbell and asked us to come look at our front porch this week because when he walked on it, it flexed up and down like there was nothing underneath it. Our driveway is beginning to crack as have many other driveways in our subdivision that have had to be replaced. What has happened so far to us, and as I’ve read in other complaint stories around the Internet, Mattamy only sends people contracted with their company to fix complaints. We’ve had all their people and they always claim nothing is wrong with the house. When we first moved in we told Mattamy what things needed to be fixed and they either fixed it after constant phonecalls reminding them to come do it, or it was left unfixed completely. If that list of problems isn’t exhaustive enough to convince someone not to buy a Mattamy home, I don’t know what is. Our built in, over the stove microwave light is blinking and it will probably go out soon, and the wood paneling that covers the wiring for the range cooktop randomly fell off and we have not been able to keep it up since. With the heat problem, we’ve seen other houses in the neighborhood having all the vents ripped out and thrown on their lawn because they had to get bigger vents. The heater was working badly when we first moved in, so we checked the air filter and Mattamy put in a filter that was too big for the slot and it was crushed up preventing air from circulating through it, so we had to replace that. Dust collects every couple of days because the air circulation is so poor. A weird thing about the heater is we found that if we aimed a space heater at the wall where the thermostat control was, it would raise the temperature it was heating the house. Today I pulled my car in the garage and as soon as I turned my motor off, I heard a bang on the hood and when I got out and looked, a bolt had fallen from the fixture holding up the garage door. All I ask is that if anyone else in the states or Canada is having similar problems, please speak up and make someone pay attention to the monopoly Mattamy has on building poorly built, high priced homes. It’s sad because one of the high-ups in Mattamy has recently been appointed District Manager of Construction in our area, and with all the positive media hype about how wonderfully built Mattamy homes are, on the Internet, nothing will be done to resolve this problem unless more people speak up.

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  1. We too have had on going issues and problems from the get go with Mattamy homes in Jacksonville, FL. Latest today 5/21/09 our bonus room window is leaking and plaster is coming down. Called Warranty – we ar out of warranty —- this is structural. We had our tiles floor grouting removed and replaced, carpeting replaced, 3 windows replaced, bath tubs recoated all within the first year. Poor, poor craftsmanship – and when they repair something — it needs to be repaired again, and again.

    Comment by Adams — May 21, 2009 @ 8:50 am | Reply

    • Considering what I have gone through and others, I am not surprised. If properly documented, in Ontario, there is Tarion but it leaves a lot to be desired in some respects. Documentation is the key. I thought dealing with issues in a personal manner and keeping it low key was good but, I learned quickly that this put you on the ignore list. I wish I could tell you about the level of repair professionalism but I see you’ve experienced it. And the Mattamy ads try to make you feel that you are family…. good luck. Since you have already replaced 3 windows under warranty, I wonder if a small claims court would agree that your bonus room window was faulty from the start and therefore warranty.. Worth a try….

      Comment by LN — May 21, 2009 @ 3:33 pm | Reply

    • I am currently have many issues with Mattamy Homes and would love for anyone to help me. I have not purchased the home yet, but as I read at the top, I already have an exhausting list of problems. Please please, if someone could contact me personally or by email, let me know. I am in Jacksonville, Florida as well. Please help!

      Comment by Ryan Phillips — July 4, 2009 @ 12:58 am | Reply

      • Hi… your best bet would be to talk to a real estate lawyer about your options on this. Do not wait too long or your warranty period will lapse and it is just harder to get things done. The lawyer may want a house inspector or engineer to inspect the dwelling and put in a report concerning the status of problems – i.e. whether natural wear and tear or inherent problems caused by shoddy workmanship. good luck

        Comment by oakvillehomes — July 4, 2009 @ 2:50 pm

  2. WE live in Bartram Springs in Jacksonville. Mattamy has dragged their feet with us too. We have a back patio that slopes toward our house. We’re now working with the VP of construction. He said he does not see a problem. He also stated that the sloe should be 1 inch for every 10 feet the patio extends away from the house. Ours slopes 3 inches for every 10 feet. WE were going to extend out pavers but they’d be in the ground after a few feet.

    Comment by Dee Paez — July 7, 2009 @ 11:49 am | Reply

    • I can understand your frustration. One thing I am confused about – you state that the patio slopes TOWARDS our house. IF that is the case, you will end up with water problems… The patio must slope away from the house. Florida gets some real rain storms and that free water flowing down the patio will certainly come into the house or, crease rot around the bottom of the wall. If this is the case, I’d get expert advice on what to do…. take care..

      Comment by oakvillehomes — July 7, 2009 @ 4:52 pm | Reply

  3. I love Mattamy Homes. They are great. Im sorry for your problems though.

    Comment by Jacki — September 30, 2009 @ 5:42 pm | Reply

  4. We have a 8 year old house built by Atlantic Builders[Mattamy Homes] and the roof is leaking and so is both of my neighbors. To the naked eye, the roof appears fine except for the tiny roof asphalt granules that wash off after a hard rain. I had no idea we would need a roof this soon. I can only guess that very cheap shingles were used.

    I wish there was something I could do. Anybody have any luck going after these guys? what about a class action suit guys?

    Comment by Chi — December 31, 2009 @ 10:43 pm | Reply

    • get a grip you live in florida all roofs do that to some extent. You are not alone and should not blame Mattamy for something Atlantic builders did. Atlantic builders is a great builder. People just like to complain and want things done for free when they don’t last as long as we are told guess what lives don’t last as long for everyone as we are told either.

      Comment by grip — March 30, 2010 @ 10:17 am | Reply

      • “get a grip you live in florida all roofs do that to some extent”

        If all homes in Florida leak after 8 years then I think you have a problem. Most people get 15-20 years before going for a new roof. Although Iknow some people like to complain, may be overly fussy and want some free stuff (who doesn’t), it is not right that they have these problems in a new house. You should get quite a few years of happiness in the new home before having to pay out for repairs. That is why I promote a house inspector on a new house to help cut down the chances of shoddy workmanshp costing you big bucks early.

        Comment by LN — March 30, 2010 @ 2:34 pm

      • The only thing we need to get a grip on is the shoddy work that is being done just about everywhere these days. I have never had a Mattamy home and I guess never will now that I have read some of these problems. Perhaps if your homes are mortgaged, everyone should start sending letters of how bad the workmanship is to their banks and perhaps the banks can stop giving mortgages for homes by these builders until they smarten up. The only way you hit them is in their pocket book and a letter to your bank won’t cost you anything. Get as big a group together to do this as you can. good luck

        Comment by P. Martin — February 27, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

  5. Hi

    Has anyone experienced premature cracking of there ceramic tile grout. We moved into our Mattamy home in Brampton spring valley community ( Formally Fletcher’s Meadow West) in Nov 2007. We are in the process of having our grout refinished as it has started to deteriorate in several areas includng some voids that have appeared.
    In calling Mattamy they have indicated this is normal due to the settling of the house. The floor joist under the kitchen floor are 12 ” apart and it appear that both nails and screws are used (Visible from the basement)
    Any input sent our way would be greatly appreaciated.
    Yeah Mattamy certainly has their issues. I wonder how they keep winning awards. Hate to see what the other builders provide.

    Comment by pat — June 29, 2010 @ 1:02 pm | Reply

  6. Yes, I’ve had cracking marble trim from early on. I’m not overly knowledgeable about ceramic floors but if you were to visit the HawthorneVillager forum, there are a couple of house inspectors that may give you advice. They hang around this link: http://www.hawthornevillager.com/phpbb/ Go to the General section. This forum is very good at doing feedback. Good luck.

    Comment by oakvillehomes — June 29, 2010 @ 4:31 pm | Reply

  7. We are also having problems with Mattamy and our home isn’t even built yet. I wanted to point out THAT THE ONE POSITIVE COMMENT HERE WAS MADE BY “JACKI”
    Isn’t that a coincidence because there is a JACKI MATTHEWS WHO WORKS FOR MATTAMY.

    Comment by sickoftheBS — August 19, 2010 @ 9:38 am | Reply

    • We are having trouble with them and our house is not built yet either. I thought that about Jacki” they have lied,to us about pricing and they have been very rude!

      Comment by Lisa — February 4, 2013 @ 9:50 pm | Reply

  8. Hi There,
    I work for a trade company here in Calgary, Alberta and we have done some work with Mattamy Homes. We parted ways with them as a company and celebrated. I personally know of two other companies that have worked with them and parted ways with them and have thrown parties.

    They are a horrible company, not only to the homeowner, but more so to the trades. They grind prices so low, that there is no possible way for trades to make any money. In fact, 2 framing companies have gone bankrupt from doing their homes. Our company has lost thousands of dollars, another company I know lost $80,000. Is that “savings” going to the home owner? No way! It is going in Mattamy Homes pocket.

    Bottom line they are a horrible company to deal with on any front. For us trades they either force you to cut corners so that you break even on cost, or if you are a company like ours, they force you to lose money because you will not comprimise quality. They don’t even care if they have a written contract with agreed upon pricing. They pay and take what they wish to pay.

    I even had the displeasure of sitting down with the VP of construction and he said to my face “He doesn’t care about safety.” I was shocked at this statement. The site we were on had a row of completed houses, the site, and a park behind. This site was littered with boards with nails, open, unmarked excavations and numerous other safety issues. They were lucky no child wandering through to go to the park was injured.

    I hope for the good of all quality trades and potential home buyers out there they get shut down one day. Quality needs to prevail for the good of the home owners and the trades.

    Comment by Krista — November 30, 2010 @ 5:38 pm | Reply

  9. […] you go to this link, you will read a comment from a sub-contractor with a viewpoint on Mattamy’s treatment of […]

    Pingback by Even the Trades find Mattamy not so good!!!!!! « Oakville Homes — December 1, 2010 @ 12:27 pm | Reply

  10. I absolutely love Mattamy Homes! They are the best builder in Jacksonville! Their warranty team is exceptional!

    Comment by Amy — April 6, 2011 @ 1:41 pm | Reply

  11. I bet Amy works for Mattamy. They are in no way the best builder in Jacksonville….not even close. Lennar might be.

    Comment by sickoftheBS — April 6, 2011 @ 7:06 pm | Reply

  12. All of these comments mirror my experiences with Lennar. 265 descrepancies on $465K house including replacing the roof, re-pouring the pool, replacing the paved driveway, redoing the knock down plaster, replacing most of the master bath, granate. When I found that the trusses were installed wrong I quit.

    Comment by tom — June 30, 2011 @ 4:39 pm | Reply

  13. Upon moving into our new mattamy builf condo like any condo were were asked to submit 4 cheques as rent during our interm occupancy. According to mattamys run down property taxes were $200 pet month along with mat fees and interest owing on the remainder of the unit minus down payment. So everything is fine and dandy, untill a year and a half later when the city of burlington finally assess our property and send us a bill for taxes which is normal. Than i notice were are getting billed during the months of interm occupancy which i found strange considering we didnt own the unit during those months and we paid mattamy harris schifer already that money as stated in their rent rundown cost. Ripoff or scam? Id actually call it unetical business with a slight splash of scam and a table spoon of ripoff. I spoke to danielle from customer care ( ironic they name a department customer care, when the word care isnt in mattamys vocab) and was pretty much told that yes it was unfair but they cant do anything about it. Matramy homes is the defination of a greedy home builder without ethics and morals. From speaking to guys that they sub contract, thr homes they build are the worst available on the market with the lowest grade materials available just barely pasding legal limits. Their are plenty of good homebuilders around such as fernbrook, brantheaven, emery, and losani so choose wisely. This my opinion and everyone is entitled to share their experiences both good and bad, unfortunately i learned this the hard way when i bought from mattamy. Funny thing is they pride them selfs on service yet from my experience and from reading others, you can get better service buying a $5 big mac from a person with little english speaking abilities. Mattamy = stay away

    Comment by Pete — August 23, 2011 @ 12:48 pm | Reply

  14. I have to ask to those of you who built new with Mattamy…did any of you have an independent inspector view the home prior to closing? We just put a deposit on a Mattamy home in Jacksonville, FL. After reading all these comments, you are making me think twice about our decision.

    Comment by Lisa — September 9, 2011 @ 10:41 pm | Reply

  15. Lisa.. thanks for visiting the Blog…. From what I have been told in Ontario, Mattamy has banned one home inspector from attending prior to closing and requires other house inspectors to sign a form requiring them to be silent during the PDI. A lawyer could try putting in the purchase agreement that a house inspector be allowed to check the home prior to occupancy but, Mattamy may not allow it. I understand some builders do allow it and others may not. Sorry I can’t help more but a check of house inspectors in your area might give you a better answer. Good luck and hope all goes well

    Comment by oakvillehomes — September 10, 2011 @ 3:24 pm | Reply

  16. There is now a Class action lawsuit in the works for people with home in Bartram Springs. The attorney is Kevin Schoeppel. His number is 904-652-2600. I have recently contacted him and, I am expecting a home inspector (private contract) to come out and assess my home.

    Comment by SWJacksonville — April 26, 2012 @ 10:00 am | Reply

    • Where does this stand? We are building with them but have not closed yet. They have already been terrible and rude with us!

      Comment by Lisa — February 4, 2013 @ 9:53 pm | Reply

    • Hello
      I live 7 miles from your area. Would you tell me how this case ended up for you? I want an attorney to take this on for a percentage, not an hourly fee. Thanks much

      Comment by Liz Hogan — September 15, 2017 @ 11:56 am | Reply

  17. Wow I am so glad I visited this site. My husband and I just recently visited a new Mattamy community in orlando Florida and we were strongly considering purchasing a home. No Way now. Thanks for your comments, you have saved us from a diaster.

    Comment by Synorivia young — July 10, 2012 @ 11:26 pm | Reply

    • Hi Synorivia, we as well are strongly considering purchasing a Mattamy home in Orlando! For what reason did you change your mind , only based on the above comments or any others . Happy to hear if we might have missed any solid reason not to buy as we still going for it ……..well maybe second thoughts as well now. Any reply much appreciated . Thanks ahead

      Comment by John — July 28, 2012 @ 9:20 pm | Reply

      • I appreciate both Synorivia and John’s comments. Part of the homebuying process should include researching the builder’s name via the internet. No matter who the builder is though, the possibility of getting less than quality construction is possible. I only note Mattamy here as i can prove the issues. Legal, quality and other aspects of buying a home from Mattamy. After doing the research, I strongly recommend you hire a PROFESSIONAL house inspector with good referrals, who is not connected with the builder or real estate agents. Time spent getting advice from someone in the trade who is paid to LOOK AFTER YOU, is worth it. Make that inspector part of the process and listen to the advice. He can be your advocate, backed up with professional reports. Something your lawyer will appreciate if the builder doesn’t live up to the advertising. In my case, I didn’t protect myself and Mattamy did not live up to their reputation or advertising.

        Comment by John Franklin — July 30, 2012 @ 10:25 am

  18. Bunch of whiners. I bought 2 Mattamay town homes in Lake Nona and they are excellent. They looked after any issues and really took care of us

    Comment by Anonymous — November 15, 2012 @ 3:46 pm | Reply

  19. Interesting how when people buy a Mattamy and they have no problems, they consider all those who had problems a bunch of whiners. Consider yourself lucky you got a well built home (at least on the surface). Not all get the good service you got
    – you know, the bully boys, illegal wiring (are you sure your wiring was alright, was it inspected and passed), no insulation in the bay windows, etc. Now, if Mattamy was asked to correct problems and didn’t, what would you do. Whine to some government agency or to your local politician who gets donations from Mattamy. You see, just because your house was alright doesn’t mean others weren’t shafted. But then, I guess having your children’s lives put at risk isn’t worth whining about. Some of us consider our families safety more important than making money on a sale. But, thank you for your comment and I’m glad your two homes were alright.

    Comment by oakvillehomes — November 15, 2012 @ 9:00 pm | Reply

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  22. Here in St Augustine I was in the process of negotiating a contract to buy a Mattamy home. From 11am Sat when I had my last email discussion with their agent until today Tues at 9AM when I drove by the lot, I saw a SOLD sign on the lot. The agent confirmed that the lot/home was sold. I guess this is the way Mattamy negotiates. BTW, their contract is totally one sided and it is unlikely my lawyer would have permitted me to sign it anyway.

    Comment by charliej103 — March 5, 2013 @ 9:29 am | Reply

    • They will be building new townhomes on International Golf Parkway. The rep I spoke with seemed very nice. However, he’s not the one building the home. I am reconsidering purchasing a townhome thru them.

      Comment by Anonymous — September 4, 2013 @ 7:14 pm | Reply

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  24. We live in Ontario Canada…..our Mattamy home sucks the big one. Both Mattamy homes we had. First one our roof leaked right through to our basement took 4 months of them ripping out flashing and not resolving the issue until I found a contractor who told me what the issue was…no flashing…DUH…
    Our second home…wow from 3 months in shingles falling off and 5 years
    After still falling off…sorry not covered due to the act of god wind storms…BS shitty shingles. Had to have a roofer up there to replace them and since then haven’t come off and our vents were not installed properly allwing moisture to accumulate.
    Spent a ton of money to get our spare washroom snaked because they were dropping grout and cement down it and caused damage to pipes…sorry you should of told tarion…we did they gave us the run around oh these are energy efficient toilets they don’t flush as much as others…so ur telling me my PiSS ways a ton and I’m SOL of it..nice.

    And now our windows have condensation building up between the panes of glass that’s causing black mold…I’m still waiting to hear what they will say, but I will be out of $$$ on this one too I suspect.

    DO NoT BUY…they’re all nice for the first .30 days until they badger you to give them 100% on their customer service survey….do not fill it out until they fix your problems. And even then tarion doesn’t do shit cause their BFFs with the builders…bunch of BS so pissed

    Comment by Mars — April 20, 2013 @ 9:55 pm | Reply

    • I appreciate your comment and I know what you are going through. I think with Mattamy and other builders the only way to fight back is a very good lawyer, a good inspection by a professional house inspector (during and immediately after construction) and, lots of time and patience. Some are well built, some people won’t acknowledge issues (afraid it will affect their dumping the joint) and we get those problematic homes that the builder seems to think will not be an issue if ignored. They make it hard to get what we pay for in a home. Of course, builders like Peter Gilgan seem to do well – worth $1.8billion. Lot of shortcuts there I would think. Take care and I appreciate you taking the time to relate your experience.

      Comment by oakvillehomes — April 21, 2013 @ 2:59 pm | Reply

  25. I have looked at Mattamy homes in Airdrie and talked with a few owners in the neighbourhood.
    Apparently after the home sale is complete any construction defects and enquiries are ignored by the company.

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  28. We are currently in the infant stages of securing a Mattamy lot and building …. However, I had many concerns about their contract (waive your right to a class action lawsuit, for instance) and just recently started doubting their integrity (showed us one price, gave us another…). After a brief internet search, I’ve discovered they haven’t always properly resolved BBB complaints and after reading this blog, my concerns have certainly grown. Thank you for hosting this blog and sharing all of your experiences with Mattamy Homes. I can’t understand how they’ve garnered such a good reputation with RE agents, etc. while treating their customers so poorly. I’m definitely reconsidering…

    Comment by HomeBuyerFL — May 21, 2014 @ 10:22 am | Reply

    • My home was built in 2006 (a Mattamy). After it sat for a year, we got it for $249,000. It was a great deal for our community!! However, after extensive problems they wouldn’t address, I ended up hiring a top to bottom, inside and outside, home inspector. That led to another inspector, an engineer and finally a lawsuit!

      What they found: the weep screens weren’t done to code, the lath wasn’t done to code, the stucco wasn’t to code, the hurricane tie rods weren’t to code…even the bloody yard wasn’t graded away from the home the way it is supposed to be, resulting in my back yard being a stinky swamp every time it rains good!

      In arbitration, I was blamed for everything. I should have caulked the cracks in the stucco more, done this, done that, etc etc. However, even the Mattamy inspector testifying for them said my home never should have even passed inspection! Also, Mattamy said they sold the home to us with the understanding that a stucco home is very high maintenance and must be painted every couple of years. AS IF we would pay a quarter of a million for a family home, had we known that!

      The stucco is literally falling off my home, I have been advised to vacate should the winds get over 55mph, nothing but weeds will live in my back yard, there are big cracks in the foundation of my home…it is like a modern day Money Pit, yet somehow Mattamy says that it is our fault that the home is unsafe and should never have passed inspection and been put up for sale!! In my community, it is Mattamy, Taylor-Morrison (my neighbors had to move because TM poured the foundation over and then built their home on top of grubbins, resulting in methane gas and their home, the whole thing, literally sinking almost a foot into the ground!! Also, Ryland but, I haven’t heard anything negative about the Ryland homes.

      I am coming away from this with the firm understanding that, next time, I will just have a home custom built and pay for my own inspectors and engineer. At least then I know it will be right!!

      Comment by Disillusioned in Javksonville — July 14, 2014 @ 11:54 am | Reply

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