Oakville Homes

July 2, 2009

Mattamy Homes – spin doctoring the development charges

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In today’s Toronto Star they had an article titled: “Battle over development fees heats up in Oakville”.  Basically, it is about the upcoming debate on the development charges in Halton.  It is nice to see that Regional Chair Gary Carr is supporting the fair application of development charges, along with Oakville Mayor Bob Burton.  Considering Oakville’s past record with developers, it is a breath of fresh air.  Gary Carr is asking for support, in response to the Mattamy Home’s email campaign – a campaign that is filled with less than truthful facts I understand.  To support Carr’s campaign, email him at gary.carr@halton.ca.  If you don’t support his idea or, you just can’t be bothered sending an email due to apathy, expect some increased taxes in Halton to help support Billionaire Peter Gilgan’s plans of development.  I guess since he had to drop the sale of his house by $10mill, he needs some extra help.

In the Milton Canadian Champion, you can also read an article on this matter.  In this article Gilgan is quoted as saying: “If there’s one message, it’s that we’re not asking any existing taxpayer to pay one red cent… to support any new development,” said Gilgan. “We’re not looking for a bailout — no bailouts here.”  It may be a matter of semantics but if the development charges don’t cover the cost of the new development, then who does pay?  I’m sure Gilgan won’t be putting up the extra money so, who is left?  The little guy wearing the barrel and suspenders I think – good old you and me, the taxpayer, that’s who.  If you want Peter, I’ll give you Obama’s and Harper’s numbers – maybe they will listen to your arguments and slip some of the bailout money to you.

Come on Gilgan, your spin doctoring might work when you try to explain no electricity and illegal (code) wiring and even criminal negligence but in this case, I think we all have your number.   We don’t like billionaires with large executive packages and benefits telling us their plans won’t cost us money.  I plan to be handing out information brochures on July 15th to show just how Mattamy has spin doctored in the past.  If you want to be there and debate the issue, I am more than willing to discuss this in public with you.  But since you already know the truth, I doubt if you would.

Well, all of you in Halton that want to see the right thing done, give Carr a call or email and let’s make sure our taxes only go up to help us, not the developers.

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  1. not to mention the factory in Milton sold to feed mill.who wants to live around a factory…wasnt factory to be relocated elsewhere once the construction was done…Utter shame to Mattamy wasnt impressed with their staff when I went for booking the home at sales office and now absolutely disgusted at their decision to sell the premises to feed mill.I dont even get my deposit money back and I am left to enjoy the view of the feed mill at escarpment dont even want to think of the fun I’ll have trying to resell the house.

    Comment by Rose — July 6, 2009 @ 5:18 pm | Reply

  2. You’ve implied that we’re asking taxpayers to foot the bill for development charges, but nothing could be further from the truth. We just launched a website (http://www.mattamypartners.com) asking people help us STOP the tax increase. If we wanted people to pay those taxes, we would have just stood by. The truth is that the Region of Halton increased their development charges by more than 9% just three months ago, and now they want to hit taxpayers with a 253% increase over the next five years. That’s not reasonable. It’s not a development charge; it’s a tax.

    We do agree that home builders and new homebuyers should pay the full cost of growth and that existing taxpayers should NOT pay taxes to support growth and development. This is a fair and reasonable expectation. What isn’t fair or reasonable, is increasing the charges from $16,574 to $41,852 per modest home without any increase in the services provided, and giving Halton the highest new home taxes in North America. New homeowners already have to pay $95,000 in taxes when they buy their new home.

    While we strongly object to an increase of any kind, at a minimum, we think it’s important for the community to have their say. There has been no meaningful consultation on this issue.

    Gary Gregoris
    Vice President – Mattamy Homes

    Comment by Gary Gregoris — July 8, 2009 @ 11:06 am | Reply

  3. I have revised numbers for my comment above:

    If these increases are passed, the Halton Region development charge will have increased 278% in just five years, with the charges going from $13,973 to $38,790.

    Above, I had written that the increase would be 253%, from $16,574 to $41,852.

    Comment by Gary Gregoris — July 10, 2009 @ 10:00 am | Reply

  4. Development charges should be paid by everyone who benefits from the new roads, infrastructure,fire stations community centers ect… Not just the developers.Does a fireman that is hired to work in Oakville but lives in Hamilton, not benefit from the new fire station. Yet he or she doesn’t pay a cent towards development. Should the developers not be able to charge people to use the roads the way Gary Carr allowed the 407 builders to charge for it’s use. Many other industries benefit from new roads, such as oil companies and car companies who pollute our enviroment. Yet they are excempt from paying anything towards infrastructure building. Let’s call this what it really is a TAX ON THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY and an attempt by the slime bag politicians to get re-elected by the votes of freeloaders who want someone else to pay for things that they will use and benefit from

    Comment by Albert — July 13, 2009 @ 5:20 pm | Reply

  5. Halton Growth Brings Laundry List Of Problems
    Money problems NOW:
    New development costs taxpayers $35 million a year by Development.

    Everyone Should Follow this before our Community is lost forever.
    STOP = Stop-Think-Observe-Plan

    Needed:
    1,100 hospital beds.
    50 new elementary schools.
    14 new high schools.
    22 fire halls.
    4 ambulance stations.
    6 police stations.
    25 community centres.
    8 libraries.
    1,650 acres of parkland.
    11 local transit facilities.
    175 buses.
    2,000 kilometres new roads.
    Problems now:
    Highways and roads getting congested.
    Hospital emergency rooms can’t fill Demand.
    Children bused to school outside their Neighbourhoods.
    Children spending elementary years in portables.
    Neighbourhood community centres lacking.

    Comment by Reporter — July 13, 2009 @ 7:54 pm | Reply

  6. Well, I don’t totally disagree with you but I must comment on the last part where you state that “it really is a TAX ON THE DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY and an attempt by the slime bag politicians to get re-elected by the votes of freeloaders who want someone else to pay for things that they will use and benefit from.”

    Yes, there are a lot of people who should pay for the roads (our gas taxes don’t seem to get to building the road infrastructure) but since as a homeowner who paid development charges, I have already paid my share for the building of the infrastructure and my taxes continue to pay for maintenance and usage of that which I use. For those coming into town and buying new homes, the Development Charges are only getting them to pay their share. Billionaire Gilgan didn’t get to be a billionaire without some kind of savings somewhere. If he is so concerned about this cost, maybe he should reduce the cost of his house to accommodate this and become a millionaire instead of a billionaire. Increasing the taxes to support Billionaire Welfare won’t let me become a billionaire.

    Appreciate your comment and yes, there are a lot of people out there not paying their share.

    Mattamy didn’t bother to give me electrical power and sold me a house without legal (code) wiring – something I paid money to them to have installed. Guess that is how they make their money – shortcuts.

    Comment by L N — July 13, 2009 @ 7:58 pm | Reply

  7. FORM 5
    FINANCIAL STATEMENT AND AUDITOR’S REPORT
    MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ACT, 1996 (SECTION 78)

    Name of Candidate Fred Oliver Declared before (clerk or commissioner)
    at the Town of Oakville 29 March 2004

    Contributors in excess of $100
    Name of Contributor
    Angelo Serafini
    Anthony G. Dicenzo
    Apple King $ 400 Peter Pomeroy
    Bellven Investments Limited
    Bronte Galleries Limited
    Fred Oliver (cash)
    Fred Oliver (inventoly)
    Greater Toronto Sewe&r Watermain ContractorsA ssoc
    J. J. Hoey Inc.
    John Paladin0
    Kopriva Taylor Funeral Home
    Lee Rocca Forming Ltd
    Maple Lodge Farms Ltd
    Miscellaneous Steel Installations Limited
    Omnilex Management Ltd
    Palomar Developments
    St. Lawrence Cement Inc.
    Tom Oliver (goodsa nd services)
    Total contributors of $100 and under
    corporation carries on business in Ontario
    Address
    304 Ulric Cres, Oakville, On L6K 3R2
    54 Birchill Lane, Oakville. On L6K 2N9
    Box 125 Norval. On LOP 1 KO
    447 Speers Rd, #200, Oakville, On L63KS 7
    408- 297 Queen’s Ave, Oakville, On L6H2 84
    1075 North Service Road W, #22. Oakville, On L6M 2G2
    408- 297 Queen’s Ave, Oakville, OLn6 H 284
    5045 Orbitor Drive, Unit 12, #BOO, Mississauga. On L4W 4Y4
    447 Speers Road, #200B, Oakville, ON L6K3 S7
    2133 Royal Windsor Drive, Unit 1, Mississauga, Ont
    64 Lakeshore Road W, Oakville, On L6K 1El
    488 Morden Road, Unit 1, Oakville, On L63KW 4
    RR 2 Norval. On LOP 1 KO
    35 Stonegate Dr. Ancaster, OnL 9G 3P3
    700 Keer Street, Oakville, On L63KW 5
    447 Speers Rd, #200, Oakville, On L6K 3S7
    1945 Graham Blvd, TMR, Que H3R 1H1
    3106 Shannon Cres, Oakville. On L6L6 84

    Comment by SPIN THIS ONE. More to Come — July 13, 2009 @ 8:20 pm | Reply

  8. Millions = GREED= Billion $

    Developer Welfare next.

    Good Bye Big Bullies @ Mattamy

    Get in line for some Government Bailout

    Comment by $Bailout For Builders—Are They Next In Line? — July 14, 2009 @ 8:31 pm | Reply

  9. As a small developer I agree that the taxpayers who have had development charges paid when they purchased their home should be exempt from paying for further growth in their property taxes. The problem is many homes were built without having to pay any development charges in south Oakville to the benefit of the owners. And now want the new home buyers to pay what they didn’t have to. GARY CARR fails to realize that many more industries and people benefit from the new growth other than developers and builders. ANYONE WHO BENEFITS FROM DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PAY INCLUDING PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL GOVT”S WHO TAX ALL THESE SO_CALLED GREAT PROFITS THAT ARE BEING MADE. CITIZENS MIGHT WANT TO PUT THE BIG SPENDER MAYOR DIAMOND ROB BURTON ON A LEASH AND NOT ALL ROADS HAVE TO BE PAVED IN GOLD BECAUSE OF HIS SELF ADMITTED HIGH STANDARDS.THE QUICKER HALTON GETS RID OF THESE CLOWNS AND GETS BACK TO BUSINESS WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE HAVING THE DISTINCTION OF HAVING THE MOST COSTLY DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING PROCEDURES IN CANADA. OOH AND DID I FORGET THE HIGHEST DEVELOPMENT CHARGES IN NORTH AMERICA AS WELL…THE SHOULD WORK AT GENEROUS MOTORS. THESE RIDICULOUS CHARGES WILL KILL JOBS JUST LIKE RENT CONTROLS KILLED THE CONSTRUCTION OF RENTAL HIGHRISES AND THE MASSIVE TAXES THEY PAID WHILE TAKING UP LITTLE SPACE.POLITICIANS DON’T THINK OF LONG TERM BENEFITS FOR THE COMMUNITY THEY ONLY THINK OF THEMSELVES BY TRYING TO BUY THE VOTES OF FREELOADERS.THESE POLITICIANS AND THE SOCIALIST IMBECILES THAT SUPPORT THEM SHOULD BE ON THEIR KNEES THANKING PETER GILGAN THE OWNER OF MATTAMY FOR BRINGING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF HIGH PAYING JOBS TO THIS COMMUNITY. ANYONE FROM LAWYERS, REALTORS ENGINEERS ANY AND ALL TRADES SUPPLIERS OF LUMBER BRICK CARPET AND ALL THE OTHER WORK CREATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN THIS COMMUNITY HAS HAD THEIR BUSINESS ENDANGERED BY THESE STUPID POLITICIANS. WHILE DOING EVERYTHING TO PROMOTE THE CAR INDUSTRY THESES GUYS STABBED YOU RIGHT IN THE BACK. DON’T FORGET THE NEW HST AS WELL. WAIT TILL ELECTION TIME………

    Comment by albert — July 16, 2009 @ 12:30 am | Reply

  10. Some good points but one, I do like my roads built well.. In my youth I don’t remember constantly having to dodge road maintenance as much as I do now.. Seems the 401 is constantly being paved – only a 2 year lifespan on paving??

    Anyways, we do know that through all this hardship and financial interference by politicians, the biggest whiner, Peter Gilgan, happens to have made it to BILLIONAIRE status. My previous job put my life on the line but I certainly didn’t make a BILLION. If I had only done shortcuts, broke the law and made donations to politicians, I probably would have been financially better off.

    Construction does mean a lot of jobs to others in the area, that is very true but, I don’t see too many billionaires out there. I see a lot of working stiffs who are trying to get by. Maybe instead of threatening job closures, BILLIONAIRE Gilgan should look after his people and ensure the jobs are there, instead of trying to figure out how to increase his wealth. Unless of course, his divorce stripped him clean. Lot of guys in that position. We need construction, we need the trades and we need the business – we don’t need a return to the ROBBER BARONS.

    And, by the way, the Mattamy WORKERS I observed at the July 15th meeting – looked like a bunch of hard working, well mannered and good people – too bad they have leadership that promotes illegal dumping, selling homes with illegal wiring, selling homes without building permits, etc. Puts a bad name on those who work for a living in construction. I can understand why some have quit.

    Comment by L N — July 16, 2009 @ 9:19 am | Reply

  11. In fairness not all builders are billionaires, most of us are working stiffs trying to make a buck. If Mr Gilgan has made a lot of money building homes god bless him. And if during that time people CHOSE to work for him and he created a lot of jobs all the better. Imagine how many people bought beer and drugs and cigarettes along with food shelter from the ridiculous amounts of taxes he has had to pay. To suggest that he hasn’t paid thousands of times more than his fair share is socialist bullshit.There are some people in this country that have never worked a day in there lives because of suckers like GILGAN. His taxes have gone to feed many children of unwed breeding machines who’s contribution to life is laying on there back. Mr Gary CARR is more concerned with getting their vote than worrying about bringing jobs to his community.If homebuilding is so easy and lucrative and you don’t like your job,you are free in CANADA to be a homebuilder like Gilgan did and try your luck………

    Comment by albert — July 16, 2009 @ 11:32 am | Reply


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